When Tomorrow Comes

Posted: September 28, 2012 in Politics

I have to be honest, I’ve never seen Brokeback Mountain, and I’m not a fan of Will and Grace.

It’s not that I don’t like gays or anything like that, they’re just not my type of shows. I am happy for couples of same sex to marry, but I’m not heavily influenced by gay culture so to speak.

However, over the last couple of weeks, I feel like part of my childhood has been corrupted. Even now, some things will never be the same.

One of my favourite TV Show’s now seems to have taken on a sinister meaning. Mr Ed was a great show about the love between a man and his horse. Now I am starting to wonder why Wilbur spent so much time in the stable.

A horse is a horse of course, of course…. The Famous Mr Ed

Speaking of horses, in my mind Bart’s Cummings will never be the same again. It has become crystal clear that I’m forever tainted.

Some would say Cory Bernardi is to blame for putting thoughts of bestiality into my mind, which he clearly did, but I don’t agree he is solely to blame. A large portion of  blame must go to Tony Abbott for promoting him his Parliamentary Secretary, after the previous Liberal leader, Malcolm Turnbull, had shown common sense in demoting him.

However, if you think that this ridiculous and offensive rhetoric from the Coalitions propaganda master is the only problem facing Tony Abbott, think again. There are a number of things that are just waiting to blow up in Abbott’s face, with the potential to take down some of his allies also.

Many of you have probably heard Tony Abbott, and the Coalitions Shadow Immigration Minister, Scott Morrison referring to Asylum Seekers as “illegal arrivals” or “illegal immigrants”. I have often heard them pulled up in interviews for using these terms which are plain wrong.

Many of these so-called “illegal arrivals” have now settled in Australia after being processed. They live here legally, and the fact that they have been processed as asylum seekers shows that there was absolutely nothing illegal about their arrival, not in the slightest. This is because it is not in any way illegal for someone to seek asylum.

Teachers claim little Scotty Morrison always had trouble reading

This is common knowledge, however it does not suit the Coalition’s scare campaign, hence the constant talk of “illegal arrivals” from Abbott, Morrison, and co.

What they forget, is that to the thousands that have had their asylum claims granted, the term “illegal arrivals” is not only wrong, it is defamatory.

I wonder how long it will be before some legal firm takes up a class action against members of the coalition for defamation. The comments have been made regularly, and made in public. The self esteem of new arrivals must be dealt a serious blow every time the defamatory accusations are promoted by the Coalition, which also serve to promote bigotry and discriminatory practices, which are also causes of mental anguish for those who have already suffered greatly.

It is not right that people who are of great influence, continually, and knowingly, portray innocent people as criminals, this is a fine example of why defamation laws were created.

You never know, after reading this, someone might take up the challenge and form a class action, let’s hope the word spreads.

Another defamation suit that awaits Abbott, and Liberal factional broker, Michael Kroger, is the claim that the legendary legal mastermind and lawyer, Chris Murphy seems to believe is certain to come, based on his Twitter feed.

I am speaking of Barbara Ramjan, the woman that Abbott and Kroger have been slandering all over the country calling her a “serial liar”.

Her apparent crime that has warranted this title was to defeat Tony Abbott in a student political debate at college, thus causing Abbott to physically intimidate her by punching the wall on either side of her head. I’m sure you all know the story by now, so I won’t rehash it in all its “Once Were Warriors” style glory…

Once Were Student Politicians

Even shock-jock Alan Jones decided it was time to cover his butt on this one, making this on-air apology;

“Ramjan is a person of high distinction having been awarded a D. Phil from Syd Uni and she is married to a Supreme Court judge. Ramjan has spent years avoiding the limelight and glare of politics choosing not to get involved after her student activity ceased. I was not aware of this and I accept now that the claim she was a serial liar is not factual.”

Not factual? That seems a wee bit light. Others would say that this actually makes Abbott and Kroger the serial liars. If not serial liars, at least targets for defamation claims. One can only imagine what Jones would say if it was Julia Gillard making the defamatory comments.

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think that somebody with such little regard for the law, and such little respect for others, is fit to represent us in parliament, let alone represent the country as Prime Minister.

Also awaiting final outcomes are the matters of Kathy Jackson, Michael Lawler, and the Health Services Union, which have Coalition fingerprints all over it. You may remember, Abbott stated in parliament that Kathy Jackson was heroic, and worthy of admiration. Jackson now speaks at Liberal think tanks, and is under investigation by Victoria Police. Meanwhile her fiancé and reserve dance partner, Michael Lawler, the VP of FWA, and appointee of Tony Abbott, is constantly defending allegations of influencing a Federal investigation, and of interfering in union business.

Then there is the Peter Slipper, and James Ashby case. This has involved several members of Abbott’s front bench, even the Liberal Deputy Leader Julie Bishop, has found herself tangled up in the chaos of the Ashby scandal. Although this case has gone a bit quiet of late, I have the feeling that this will do untold amounts of damage to the Liberal Party as it comes closer to completion, it has the characteristics of a wrecking ball that is about to reach the top of its arc, and head downwards.

I have the feeling that Abbott’s use-by date may be approaching faster than he thinks, although I have no doubt he will come out swinging like he is losing to the female debate team at college. There is no way that Abbott will go down without a fight, after all he is “The Brawler”, a nick-name the Coalition used to lovingly call him, although not since the wall bashing episode hit the headlines.

Bernardi’s influence on Abbott was becoming apparent…

I started out by saying that I hadn’t seen Brokeback Mountain, but there is a movie that I can recommend.

Crouching Turnbull, Hidden Agenda.

I’m sure we’ll all see it soon…

  1. Sue says:

    The big shock for me this week was to learn that Mr Ed had peanut butter in his mouth. He was not not talking
    Peanut Butter!

  2. Möbius Ecko says:

    “Then there is the Peter Slipper, and James Ashby case.”

    Now hotting up as the government has paid Ashby $50,000 in damages and the interlocutory hearing for Ashby suing Slipper is next week.

  3. Heather says:

    One can only hope the shit hits the fan soon.

  4. Matt says:

    I hope the $50k doesn’t cover his legal fees. How they could stuff this up and be paying a settlement is beyond me.

    Peter, I think defamation(with the defences available) might be a bit hard to stick with these ‘illegal’ comments towards refugees in general. I’m not even sure if it would classify legally as harassment, though it obviously amounts to as much, and certainly incites it. I’m just not too confident that they are stupid enough to have run afoul of our laws. If they wan’t to say something really bad, they only have to bite their tongue until they have parliamentary privilege. These statements are made repeatedly, in a calculated manner, they are not slips of the tongue. Their legal teams would have vetted everything, and kept an eye on every utterance. However, with Ramjan, that is totally different. It was off the cuff, made under pressure while scrambling to make himself look good, directly identified the individual, and was definitely defamatory.

    I have heard Tony say that his use of the word ‘illegal’ refers to the government labelling unidentified vessels as S.I.E.V.(Suspected Illegal Entry Vessel). Note this refers to the vessel, not the cargo. All unidentified ships entering our waters are of course presumed to have done so without permission, and it therefor follows that entering in such a manner is illegal(once again, for the boat, not the cargo). The boat must be referred to as something, and until such time as further identifications are made, the SIEV tag is what they get. This is how he weasels his way out legally. He can be loose with the words, if it doesn’t effect their claim outcomes or provision of services, and is based on a twisted shred of truth.

  5. Marilyn says:

    There are class actions happening for damages in detention with tens of millions in compensation already being paid to refugees we deliberately damaged.

    I do wish though our cretin media would stop parroting “offshore processing” when no such thing exists in any law of the world and there is no such thing as refugee deterrence that the morons keep referring to.

    The Commonwealth have set a very bad example paying out Ashby though, now any spiv. with a beef will try it on.

    • wixxy says:

      There certainly is no deterent, but calling people criminals when they are not, is not unlike branding someone a rapist, or a pedophile. It’s just a different crime…

      • Marilyn says:

        What I don’t get is why our cretin media are told over and over again that they are talking crap but still keep talking the same crap the next day.

        Take the whole people smuggling lies. There is no people smuggling and the fact that Rocksoff is now not going to be charging most of the Indonesia crews with any such thing shows they know they have been wasting lives and money for 12 years since our own courts first said this:

        RILEY J
        AT DARWIN ON WEDNESDAY 14 MARCH 2001 AT 12.30 PM
        Continued from 12/3/2001

        “As has been observed in relation to other cases of this kind, the prisoners were not involved in a ‘people-smuggling’ exercise. There was nothing covert about either operation. They were transporting the non-citizens to Australia for presentation to Australian authorities. There was no attempt to hide from the authorities or to disguise what they had done”.

  6. hayzeee says:

    Hi Wixxy, latest on Ashby…govt. settle for $50K plus all members and senators to receive specific training…Slipper -v- Ashby back in court for mention on Tuesday.
    Perhaps you could suggest the class action to George Newhouse?
    Cheers, Hayzeee

  7. Marilyn says:

    How can the commonwealth settle without Slipper having a say in anything?

  8. ghanpa says:

    @Matt – the term ‘illegals’ is being used as a general derogatory reference to all those who arrive by boat to seek asylum. Those people have come from a variety of cultural heritages quite different from ours – they are not ‘Australian’. So to me,lumping them all together as ‘illegals’ is racial vilification.

  9. Matt says:

    ghanpa, I don’t disagree with what you are saying in regard to the intent, not that I actually think Tony Abbott is a rabid racist, but it is certainly a dog whistle call to racist voters. However, it also speaks to those who are against boat people for a range of other issues. It validates their feelings to hear them called ‘illegal’.

    The point I am making, is that I don’t think you can successfully legally argue that it is defamation. It also doesn’t matter if you recognise it as racial vilification, I’m pretty sure the law would require something more than intuition to accept it as such. The language used would require a clear racial element. Generally referring to ‘illegals’ does not contain any such language.

    Personally, I don’t think there are many people who would refuse what they recognise as a genuine refugee. The biggest problem is, many genuine refugees are not recognised as such. There are many reasons for this, and thinking everything is down to racism doesn’t get anywhere with the many opposed to boat people who don’t take issue with their race.

  10. Jeremy Andrews says:

    In the notorious 7.30 interview, when challenged over his use of the word ‘illegal’, Tony Abott replied that they had passed through other countries and should have asked for asylum there. That was his ‘justification’, no mention of the boats’ status. Since there are no safe countries on the way here this is another lie.

  11. Matt says:

    Tony speaks a lot on this issue. I believe he was speaking to Barrie Cassidy when talking about SIEVs. I couldn’t find the interview. But I can also see plausible defamation defense in what you have quoted. If you want many examples of exactly what kind of stuff people get away with every day, just pick up a newspaper or switch on the telly.

  12. Oldskool says:

    The ‘I’ in SIEV as in IMA stands for irregular, not illegal and Abbott and Morrisson should be aware of this!

  13. Matt says:

    Hmm, interesting, I wonder if Labour changed the wording after winning office, or if has always been suo? “Irregular” makes much more sense, but “Illegal” is very Howard.

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